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Location:

Seattle,WA,

Member Since:

Dec 30, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

2019: 10:29 2 mile, 16:33 5k, 27:14 8k, 55:50 15K, 1:16:04 HM

Post Mayan Apocalypse PRs:

200 31.13 (2016, ATC all comers)

400 69.96 (2015, ATC all comers)

800 2:19 (2016, ATC all comers)

Mile 4:58 (2017, ATC all comers) 

3000 9:34 (2017, ATC all comers)

2mile 10:29 (2019, CNW Grand Prix)

5000 16:33.6 (2019, CNW all comers)

5k 16:50 (2018, Green Lake Gobble)

8k 27:14 (2019, Beat the Bridge)

10K 35:16 (2017, Eastside Beltline)

15K 55:10 (2018, Magnuson Park Memorial Day)

10-mile 60:29 (2017, Atlanta 10 mile)

HM 1:16:04 (2019, Lake Sammamish Half)

30K 2:01:56 (2014, Striders WRC 30K)

Mar 2:50:07 (2013, Sojo Marathon)

 

Fiddy "Classic" Accomplishments (before I forget)

2:03 800, 4:11 1500, 9:47 3200, 15:26 5000, 32:30 10000, 1:11:15 HM (unaided), 2:32 marathon (Boston)

Seattle Half Marathon '08-'11: 2nd (1:13), 4th (1:11), 5th (1:14), 2nd (1:13)

2nd MI half 2010 (1:11)

10th Seattle RNR 2009 (2:35)

97th Overall @ Boston 2010 (2:32)

2011 3rd Place @ Des News (2:35) and Top of Utah (2:33)

I once beat 14 year-old Connor Mantz (2011 Utah Valley Half 1:11) and 16 year-old Ben Saarel (2011 Flat as a pancake 16:23 in the f-ing snow)

2011 Salt Lake Half 1st place (1:14), Capitol Half 1st place (1:14), Provo City 4th place (1:16, unaided)

2011 Ragnar Ultra 1st place Wasatch Back Relay

7th place SLC half 2009 (1:11)

2009 Fremont 5k 16:00, 2010 Dart Challenge 16:05, 2011 Draper Days 16:02

2009 Running of the Leopards 15:03, aided

2009 Striders 10mile 1st place (58 mins)

2007 3rd place SCIAC 5k 15:26

2006 D3XC nationals, 184th (of 280)

Short-Term Running Goals:

5/18 Bart the Brodge

6/9 RicknRail Murothin

Long-Term Running Goals:

get busy living or get busy dying

Personal:

Crop rotation in the 14th century became considerably more widespread after John.

 

 

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Race: Deseret News (26.2 Miles) 02:35:22, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 2
Total Distance
28.00

I remember telling myself all summer that just because I, in theory, could, break 2:30 here, that 2:35 would not be a disaster.

Well let me tell you 2:35 was a disaster, at least it felt like a disaster, and I couldn't believe I salvaged the time that I did.

First off, I should say that I really need money at the moment so I was hoping that I could at least bag the $500 for 2nd place. Allie dropped me off at the buses and I immediately ran into Steve Andersen, who told me that John Kotter was running. Ha! Oh well. I found John at the starting line to tell him how much of a jerk I thought he was, which was tough because it turns out he is a very pleasant, humble guy. I told him to not go too crazy at the start which I suppose he didn't, he really is just a lot faster than me.

Anyway, I'm going to do this race report Paul/Sasha style because I think it warrants it.

Mile 1 (5:02.58): Yes that's very fast, but for those that don't know this is very fast, downhill mile. I was in 5th after the first mile and was probably much closer to 6th and 7th than the 4th place runner. My pacing sheet for Des News said that this mile was 20 seconds too fast so I decided to try to slow it down.

Mile 2 (5:16,10:18): This was right on the pace that I wanted to hit. I remember feeling a little bit of a twinge in my shin in this mile and also really wishing that the downhill would stop.

Mile 3 (5:16,15:35): I really tried to slow it down this mile and I did (relatively speaking) as this should have been faster. My legs were already suffering from the pace and I didn't really know what to do about it. Also I really needed to pee! I do a time check during this mile and I see that I'm 1 minute behind John, Fritz and Rossy. The 4th place guy is still extending his lead.

Mile 4 (5:27,21:02): I still need to pee. I also am kind of feeling the water sloshing around in my stomach. On the plus side, I am still hitting the splits that I want. Effort wise, the pace feels fine, but my legs feel very tired.

Mile 5 (5:40,26:43): First sign of trouble here as I can't find a good rhythm on this flat section. 4th place runner is now coming back to me very fast losing maybe 20 seconds to me in this mile.

Mile 6 (6:01,32:45): The first of three miles of uphill here. I pick up a little bit of time here as I surge to catch the 4th place runner and then push hard on the uphill. I can now see the road up little mountain and I watch for the figures of fritz and John climbing. There are almost 3 minutes ahead. (Note Fritz was 2:34 ahead of me at mile 6).

Mile 7 (6:34,39:18): Relative to the performance chart, my strongest mile of the race. I wanted to see faster than this or for it to feel easier. This is the a major worry for me as I have now slowed to tempo run pace with the same effort. The altitude is causing me problems.

Mile 8 (6:11, 45:30): I clearly slowed down quite dramatically here as this mile should have been faster. However I was trying to get my breath back and get into a groove so it makes sense. It was still right on pace.

Mile 9 (5:26, 50:56): Pretty relaxed downhill mile and I started to feel very good. I caught Rossy in this mile and we ran together until Burr's lane. This was the 8th mile in a row for which I had hit the split that I would have considered "ideal" with 5 or 10 seconds. I was now needing to pee though. Also, this was the mile when I was supposed to take my first Gu but I didn't feel like putting anything in my stomach.

Mile 10 (5:42,56:38): I got a boost in this mile as I saw Fritz and John at the turnaround. They still looked good but their lead did not seem insurmountable. I knew that they must be on a killer pace and I still had a shot. I was 3:38 back at this point.

Mile 11 (5:29,1:02:07): Did not feel comfortable in this mile at all. I'm not sure how much this mile cost me, but I definitely surged on this mile which was a mistake. I had planned to wait until mile 13 to surge, but I didn't want their lead to get insurmountably large.

Mile 12 (5:35,1:07:42): I was still on my goal pace (almost exactly) but I was having to push pretty hard to do it. My legs felt empty in this mile and I felt like I was slapping the ground rather than the smooth, silent turnover that I can normally achieve. I have 14 miles left! I also not enjoying the downhill as I'm beginning to feel nauseous.

Mile 13 (5:41,1:13:24 Half 1:14:00):Exactly where I want to be at the half but all systems not functional. I remember how I felt at halfway in my last two marathons and it was not like this. I take a Gu out of my pocket and take one suck before throwing it down in disgust. This would turn out to be a wise decision.

Mile 14 (5:45,1:19:04): Somehow I'm still holding it together pace-wise, even as my stomach starts to churn and my legs begin to falter.

Mile 15 (5:43,1:24:52): The plan on miles 14-18 was to attack every uphill and I'm still doing that here, but it is merely delaying the inevitable. I'm still on pace for a 2:30 at this point, somewhat miraculously.

Mile 16 (5:48, 1:30:41): I really cannot believe that I'm still hitting sub 6 at this point. I've decided at this point that I'm stopping at the next bathroom. I'm not sure it will help, but it seems worth a try. As I turn off the canyon road I'm told that the leaders are 5:29 ahead. (Fritz was 5:57 ahead at mile 16).

Mile 17/18 (12:11.1:42:52): I missed the split at 17 because the aid station was right next to it. There was no one there to give me water even though I was yelling to get there attention. There was just a "sorry, 2 more miles." Not what I needed. I'm pretty sure that 17 was still sub 6. In the 18th mile there is a hill that I have run many times this summer and attacked with a vengeance each time. There was no attack this time. My breathing was getting a little ragged at it was clear that my strength was leaving me.

Mile 19 (6:00, 1:48:52): I had given up on sub 2:30 at this point. As I knew that trying to gut it out would be a disaster. I knew that unless I had another dramatic drop off that I might still salvage 2:33-2:34. By the way I'm still looking for a bathroom.

Mile 20 (6:12, 1:55:04): I'm just trying to hold it together here. I keep stumbling and tripping.

Mile 21 (6:47, 2:01:51): I cease holding it together here. In hindsight this mile is not so bad but I feel pretty terrible and I could really afford to slow down anymore. This mile is uphill but it should only have been 20 seconds slower than mile 20 not 35 seconds. And also mile 20 was pretty bad too.

Mile 22 (5:51, 2:07:42): Ok, where is there going to be a bathroom, this is getting ridiculous. Downhill mile but I'm clearly still surviving.

Mile 23 (7:03, 2:14:45): This mile included a 44 second bathroom break so the running part only took my 6:19. I'm still holding it together. The fact that I took a stop this close to the end tell you just how bad I was feeling. Felt much happier after this.

Mile 24 (6:14, 2:2059): Out of the frying pan, into the fire. In this mile I felt half the skin rip off of my right heel forcing me to limp for a bit until the pain numbed. It's unclear how I ran a 6:14 here as I felt like I was walking down south temple (in my tempo run this mile was sub 6 pretty easily).

Mile 25 (6:24,2:27:23): A sub 2:35 slipped away during this mile but in my defense the other half of the skin ripped off of my heel at this point. I was now counting down the block.

Mile 26.2 (7:59,2:35:22): This mile is a little harder so I held it together about as well here. I almost burst into tears at the end of this race, it was quite an ordeal.

Immediately saw Allie and Allie's grandparents which was nice. I was then interviewed by the paper which was exciting. I held back my tears during the interview.

I wasn't sad about the race, or even angry. The race was a disaster, but a 2:35 is NOT a disaster for me. I know my body and I know my training and I know that it was reasonable for me to run 2:30-2:32 today. I anticipate a speedier recovery than previous marathons to back up this assertion. So why did I run 2:35?

First my legs felt bad from the beginning, around mile 2. This often happens in races, but clearly I do not handle the sustained downhill very well. I'm good at using downhill it short bursts but it is becoming clear from my racing history that downhill makes me suffer.

See (ROTL 2009/11, Striders 2009, Boston 2010, Des News 2010, Freedom Half 2011)

Also let's look at some of my best performances:(RNR 2009 (hilly), Seattle Half 08/09 (Hilly), Striders 10 mile 2009 (very hilly), MI half 2010 (Hilly), ROTL 2009 (downhill, but 5k), Draper Days 2011(hilly), Classic 10k 2010(hilly))

It's clear that I am not a proficient downhill runner, which is unfortunate given that I live in Utah.

2nd, I felt nauseous. I ate very little before or during the race but I think that this might be the problem. I normally eat quite a bit before a marathon (bagels. chips, rice crackers) but this is normally about 4 hours before. Having my stomach contain only Gu and gatorade was probably not a good idea.

3rd, the skin ripped off of my feet...Well, you know what, that's just the Des News Marathon.

Positives:

-I did hit my pace for about 16 miles. Sasha often says that the training gets you the first 16 miles and the rest is a matter of the day. Clearly I'm doing something right in traning.

-Oh right also I didn't run in Jan, Feb, March because of a knee injury. I had a bit of a knee scare this week but it was actually fine during the race.

-As I mentioned earlier, I am hoping to recover faster from this race as I didn't run on pace the last few miles (famous last words).

-After the race I lay down on my couch feeling ill. Allie came over, brought me some smoothies and gave me a massage until I fell asleep.

 

WhiteHyperspeed Miles: 28.00
Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Comments
From Walter on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 23:04:10 from 24.2.69.110

James, that is a great time for suffering at the end. You did great! I feel your pain my friend, keep up the great work.

From Lily on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 23:09:06 from 67.199.178.210

I know you're not done writing this up buuut. James I know I always tell you this, but you are seriously amazing. I love hearing about how you do. Your reports always make me so proud that I know you. Way to go today!

From Merri on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 23:19:40 from 160.7.252.148

Awesome job James & good job allie with the smoothie.

From Rob Murphy on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 23:24:01 from 98.202.141.17

I'm pretty sure that Des News is supposed to feel like a disaster!

Way to lay it on the line. Nothing ventured, nothing gained right?

Really enjoyed chatting before the race. Congrats on the fine time and place.

From Rob Murphy on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 23:26:26 from 98.202.141.17

By the way, you are a really good writer James.

From Kelli on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 23:37:56 from 71.219.99.3

STUPID FREAKING BATHROOMS!!! I can not believe you had to hold on that long. There was a nice clean bathroom at mile 26.1...I popped out of it just in time to see you run by!

Great details on the race. It is strange how so much of it went right, yet you just were not feeling it. Sorry about the tummy and the skin sliding off your bones---YUCK and OUCH!

Take care and speedy recovery! Thanks for the right up, very interesting.

From fiddy on Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 23:38:04 from 174.23.140.68

Thanks Rob,

I leave the typos and run on sentences in there so you can tell that this is basically stream of consciousness writing. Or maybe because I am lazy.

From Carina on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 00:02:21 from 204.15.86.83

Great race, especially considering the conditions! It was fun to meet and talk with you today!

From Fritz on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 00:19:16 from 67.182.226.25

James, nice job toughing it out. That course is brutally steep and has little resemblance of normal terrain. With your training and discipline I am sure it will all come together soon.

From Rossy on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 15:31:33 from 167.138.234.19

Sorry Fiddy, I was not in a good place for talking after that brutal ordeal, just needed a good 10-minute walk afterwards (i.e., I just went full tilt for the last four miles to sneak in with my goal time). Anyway, a great race for your first of many Des News marathons (once you are in the club, you can not, not run it)!!! Love the race report and a solid climb up Little Mountain and not too bad on the incline to Sunnyside/Research Park (I always like to look at these two miles since they are the worst on the course in my book). Also, it was great to talk to you during the race. Hope the recovery is going well!

From allie on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:00:21 from 161.38.218.168

skinless feet -- just another prize offered by the great des news marathon.

great job, james. you were really tough out there yesterday and i was proud of you and your efforts. as rob said, des news always feels like a disaster, even when you don't need a bathroom and you still have skin on the bottom of your feet. you stuck to your plan and ran intelligently. you fought through lots of discomfort and nausea yet still found a way to pull off a 2:35, which demonstrates your strength, preparation, and ability to endure the rough patches. despite the setbacks you still came out of it with a top 3 finish and some nice ca$h. you have proven many times that you are right up there in the mix of competition with your fitness and abilities, it just needs to "click" on (downhill) race day (which it will!)

on a side note: i had a few gallons of neosporin and several thousand bandaids shipped to your house today. save the receipt because i will get a disaster relief tax credit.

From jtshad on Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 15:21:54 from 204.134.132.225

Way to hang tough and still post a good time considering the issues you had. You battled hard deep into the race and showed your character in keeping it together to the end.

From Bec on Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 23:53:14 from 71.199.9.12

Great race! Fun to read the report. Get recovered.

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