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Location:

Seattle,WA,

Member Since:

Dec 30, 2007

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

2019: 10:29 2 mile, 16:33 5k, 27:14 8k, 55:50 15K, 1:16:04 HM

Post Mayan Apocalypse PRs:

200 31.13 (2016, ATC all comers)

400 69.96 (2015, ATC all comers)

800 2:19 (2016, ATC all comers)

Mile 4:58 (2017, ATC all comers) 

3000 9:34 (2017, ATC all comers)

2mile 10:29 (2019, CNW Grand Prix)

5000 16:33.6 (2019, CNW all comers)

5k 16:50 (2018, Green Lake Gobble)

8k 27:14 (2019, Beat the Bridge)

10K 35:16 (2017, Eastside Beltline)

15K 55:10 (2018, Magnuson Park Memorial Day)

10-mile 60:29 (2017, Atlanta 10 mile)

HM 1:16:04 (2019, Lake Sammamish Half)

30K 2:01:56 (2014, Striders WRC 30K)

Mar 2:50:07 (2013, Sojo Marathon)

 

Fiddy "Classic" Accomplishments (before I forget)

2:03 800, 4:11 1500, 9:47 3200, 15:26 5000, 32:30 10000, 1:11:15 HM (unaided), 2:32 marathon (Boston)

Seattle Half Marathon '08-'11: 2nd (1:13), 4th (1:11), 5th (1:14), 2nd (1:13)

2nd MI half 2010 (1:11)

10th Seattle RNR 2009 (2:35)

97th Overall @ Boston 2010 (2:32)

2011 3rd Place @ Des News (2:35) and Top of Utah (2:33)

I once beat 14 year-old Connor Mantz (2011 Utah Valley Half 1:11) and 16 year-old Ben Saarel (2011 Flat as a pancake 16:23 in the f-ing snow)

2011 Salt Lake Half 1st place (1:14), Capitol Half 1st place (1:14), Provo City 4th place (1:16, unaided)

2011 Ragnar Ultra 1st place Wasatch Back Relay

7th place SLC half 2009 (1:11)

2009 Fremont 5k 16:00, 2010 Dart Challenge 16:05, 2011 Draper Days 16:02

2009 Running of the Leopards 15:03, aided

2009 Striders 10mile 1st place (58 mins)

2007 3rd place SCIAC 5k 15:26

2006 D3XC nationals, 184th (of 280)

Short-Term Running Goals:

5/18 Bart the Brodge

6/9 RicknRail Murothin

Long-Term Running Goals:

get busy living or get busy dying

Personal:

Crop rotation in the 14th century became considerably more widespread after John.

 

 

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Miles:This week: 0.00 Month: 0.00 Year: 0.00
Adizero Rocket Lifetime Miles: 323.35
Asics Hyperspeed Lifetime Miles: 369.13
Mizuno Waverider Lifetime Miles: 509.70
Adistar Ride Lifetime Miles: 520.40
Saucony Type A Lifetime Miles: 253.60
Adistar Rideb Lifetime Miles: 236.30
Waveriderb Lifetime Miles: 466.70
Nimbus Lifetime Miles: 570.30
WhiteHyperspeed Lifetime Miles: 268.50
RedFree Lifetime Miles: 405.55
Saucony Hattori Lifetime Miles: 46.10
NimbusFIRE Lifetime Miles: 260.50
WhiteHyper2 Lifetime Miles: 100.20
WaveriderC Lifetime Miles: 203.95
NimbusVampire Lifetime Miles: 357.50
CelticMirage Lifetime Miles: 312.00
NeonFree Lifetime Miles: 17.80
Nimbus FireB Lifetime Miles: 2.50
Nimbus FireC Lifetime Miles: 0.00
Total Distance
17.50

AM Did two loops of Sugarhouse. Threw in some good surges as the run went on and found my legs complained much less than on Saturday. I think I'll do a more organized fartlek type run this evening. Plus there's going to be some good pontificating!

PM Did seven miles with about 3 of them at a faster pace. My calves felt fine but I felt pretty tired overall which is completely understandable given my mileage the last couple of days. I can run reasonable fast (like sub 7) everyday if I'm under 90mpw pace I think, but I have to start measuring my effort when I log 46.5 miles in three days (which I just did!).

Now for the pontification, I'm not sure what my point is...

Anyway I was reading the responses to Jeff's Provo half-winning race report and specifically what Sasha said about the American collegiate system.  I am one of the few on here (I think) who actually ran for four years in college (plus 4 years in high school) and took no break after graduating aside from the break I would normally take after the end of a season. I have continued to improve at pretty much the same rate so far. In fact, the longer I run the more 'talent' I seem to discover.

When I look at how I did in high school cross, it's kind of laughable. I ran 18:04 at the WA state meet my senior year for 110th in 3A. My college coaches for a while thought I was a headcase because I seemed to fold in big races, they cited that state meet as an example. I told them that at the time it was a good race for me and they were floored. They couldn't believe that I could have been that slow in high school. Was it for lack of effort? NO! Because I had no talent? Apparently not, as I am now faster than probably 100 of those 110 guys. Because the coaching was bad? I don't think so, we were a very succesful team.

Maybe the point is that you can't tell who is going to be good and who is not based upon how well we do in High School. I watched footlocker this year, I decided I could have been competitive in that race and finished in the middle of the pack judging be the difficulty of the course and the times. So what? High schoolers aren't that good in the 5K in general and so it's difficult to see what someone's potential is because everyone is so far from being maxed out. However the people who show promise as freshman in HS get more attention and thus run more so they'll most likely be the best sophomores and so on. People who are the best in high school go to the best colleges and put in more miles and make a bigger commitment. Those who have made it by the time college ends go on to become professionals.

So essentially you will have no reason to push yourself to uncover your talent or be able to justify the time it takes unless you've already come pretty far. This doesn't just apply to running but alot of things. The difference with running is that it necessarily takes alot of time. You're not going to peak at age 20, but if you've only run, say, 14:30 at that point then you might not think you'll ever amount to much if you run D1. There's this kind of false assumption that the running is limited to within the scope of the 4 years.

I'm not sure any of this makes sense. Maybe I'll write more tomorrow and it will be coherent.

Night Sleep Time: 0.00Nap Time: 0.00Total Sleep Time: 0.00
Comments
From Burt on Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 19:31:50 from 68.76.197.194

Pontificating?

From allie on Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 20:31:51 from 174.23.253.123

yes, burt. pontificating. it is very similar to planking, although it involves fire, q-tips and whiskey.

From Burt on Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 21:20:23 from 72.223.90.79

Really allie? You found this comment from almost two years ago?

From allie on Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 21:31:11 from 174.23.253.123

just checking in to see if you remembered what you said.

i'll be back in 2013.

From Burt on Mon, Mar 07, 2011 at 21:36:43 from 72.223.90.79

I never forget anything. I still haven't forgotten that dream I had about Fiddy either.

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